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CREEK SPEAKS
The Official Shop Rag of Salt Creek
Sports Car Club
2000 SCSCC Officers
President Jim Camasto (630)357-6987
jcamasto@att.net
VP / Webmaster Sam Hochberg (630)830-9308
Membership Cathy Hochberg (630)830-9308
Treasurer Karen Klein (630)897-1873
Secretary Linda Strain (630)992-1548
vanlin.megsinet.net
Events Bob Barrath (630)323-9121 bob@atg.stormproducts.com
Race Steward Henry Bene (608)255-9633
benedash@yahoo.com
Newsletter Rick Bunton (815)562-3909
rbunton@rochelle.net
Points Lee Witkowski 630-257-5025
lwitkowski@ameritech.net
Publicity Cathy Hochberg (630)830-9308
cathy@hochberg.com
Trophies Jamie Strain (847)327-9295 vdub63@yahoo.com
Social Linda Strain (630)992-1548
vanlin.megsinet.net
Salt Creek Sports Car Club
C/O Rick Bunton
11235 E. Oak Court
Rochelle, Il 61068
Next Monthly Meeting:
Portillo's
Thursday, March 1 8:00 PM
Salt Creek Meeting Minutes
December 7, 2000
15 Members attending
Annual Banquet: Jayna Barrath has contacted Cucina Roma and scheduled our banquet for Feb. 3, 2001. Club
agrees to supplement cost to keep member's charge to $25.00 apiece. The event will start at 6:30. Information will
be sent out to all members in the January newsletter. Directions and other info have been posted to the website.
Events: There was discussion about holding 2 events at Lake Geneva this year, and which BHF race weekend to
take this year. Jim Camasto and Allen Skillicorn offered to co-chair an event this year.
Meeting Schedule: The January/February meeting" will be at the Annual Banquet Feb. 3rd,
therefore, there will be no meetings at Portillo's until March 1 2001.
Membership/Publicity: Dues Due! Cathy will send out preliminary Banquet invitations in advance
of the newsletter if possible.
2001 Officers (Part Two): Linda Strain and Lee Witkowski have graciously offered to be Secretary
and Points, respectively. Rick Bunton will continue to do our newsletter, but possibly not the entire year.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 PM
...Sam Hochberg
ANNUAL BANQUET
Drivers and Crew members $25.00 each
The Club will cover the cost of your first two drinks
Drivers name ________________ Crew Members ___________________________
Please Make Checks Payable to SCSCC …………. Please submit money by Jan. 22, 2001
Send Reservations and Money to:
Bob and Jayna Barrath
6106 Springside Avenue
Downers Grove, Il 60516
Cucina Roma
800 East Ogden Avenue
(Route 83 and Ogden Avenue)
Westmont, Illinois
Salt Creek Sports Car Club
41st Annual Banquet
February 3, 2001
6:30 Cocktails 7:30 DInner
Ice Racers Wanted
Thanks to Allan Skillicorn for supplying the
following information.
Alright everyone's waiting to find out when they can tear up a little ice. This years WAG schedule follows. WAG
events are held a little NW of Milwaukee, in Hustiford Wi. This is a pretty central location, not far from Madison,
Milwaukee, and Chicago. Nobody can cry that it's too far away. It's 1.5 hrs from Chicago's NW burbs. There is
another Series in LaCrosse also, I'll post that schedule when I find it.
WAG schedule:
1/14 - WAG Ice Trial #1.
1/21 - WAG Ice Trial #2.
2/11 - WAG Ice Trial #3.
2/18 - WAG Ice Trial #4.
On Sat 1/20 there will be a Badger Bimmer ice school at the same location.
Further info can be found at www.w-a-g.org
> Allen
SCSCC and the Meadowdale Saga
I've included the following thread from the Midwestern Council Member's Newsgroup. It was forwarded to me by
Sam Hochberg. I found it very interesting as I know very little about our club's past. Allen Skillicorn got this
started and other MC members supplied the rest of the story. I've tried to leave it as close to original as possible
for fear of distorting any facts and still get in newsletter format.
Subject: Meadowdale raceway
From: "allen t skillicorn"
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:41:10 EST
Anybody see the article in SportsCar that came out 2day about Meadowdale. What a coincidence, I must say
since we just "ran" there with KATcca.
Subject: Meadowdale raceway
From: "Sam Hochberg"
Allen;
You've piqued my curiosity: What do you mean by "we just 'ran' there with KATcca"? To all Council
nostalgia/trivia buffs: My wife and I stopped by the old Meadowdale track recently and discovered one can still
walk almost the entire track, crumbling as it is! It was quite a pleasant autumn afternoon stroll. The pictures in
SportsCar (and others you might have seen) do not really capture what a wild track that was. The elevation
changes were staggering, it was hard to believe one was in Illinois. The only thing we didn't see was the "Monza
Wall" I'd heard about...its location, according to the track maps I've seen, was actually the FLATTEST part of the
track. If anybody knows of any good Meadowdale-related internet links, please post them or send them directly
to me! My searches have turned up surprisingly little. I was thinking of adding a Meadowdale section to the Salt
Creek website, as I know the club (and/or Council?) ran events there (WAAAY before my time!).
Don't know if this topic constitutes Council racing business, but what the hey, it's a slow news month, and at least
it's bench-racing! …
Subject: Re: Meadowdale raceway
From: "Ross Fosbender" <rossf@interaccess.com>
Sam-
There is very little on the 'net about Meadowdale. Bill Maloney, an MC regular way back, has a Corvette Grand
Sport track test at MIR on the Auto Channel site, but that's about it. Chi Region's web history gives it short shrift
because they were so wrapped up in RA. I think you'd get some good traffic if you had a Meadowdale section on
your Salt Creek SCC website. Your club ran the last two Midwestern Council races ever run at Meadowdale, on
July 23, 1967 and May ??, 1968. (Salt Creek also ran there independently before they joined Midwestern Council,
tho I'm not sure whether those were races or solo events.) There are some great Meadowdale pictures in old MC
Annuals for your website. My favorite is of the two Meister Brauser Scarabs (Harry Heuerand Augie Pabst?)
leading a field in front of packed grandstands. Your 1968 race was scheduled for one of the two long courses, but
the track was such a mess they had to run on the mickey mouse north end 1.1 mile course. I didn't run
that one - got married about then (no sense of priorities). North Suburban had a contract for an October, 1968
race at MIR, but by then there was nothing left to race on. For a couple of years various groups popped up
periodically with plans to revive the place, but nothing came of that. The track never did drain correctly and the
later paving was sub-standard. Much of it broke up at the last big race there, a Trans Am in July, 1968. By the
mid-70s it was pretty well agreed that MIR was destined to become a subdivision. But it hasn't yet...
I have been working recently with historian/author Bill Pohnan on research about Meadowdale. I saw the outline
and first chapters of a book he's writing about the track and am very excited about it. Midwestern Council ran
some major spectator sports car races there in the early '60s (pre-me), so I'm expecting us to get some big play in
his book. He's scanned all our Council Meadowdale results for inclusion in the book. (Incidentally, your May 68
race results were not included because they were never sent to Klaxon. There's no chance of anyone in the club
having a set, is there?) I am hoping that some of the other old farts, I mean veteran members, of Council (Sandsnes,
Goertz, Dunbar, Nappi, Novotny, Weinberger?) will contribute some memories of Meadowdale to the book, and
hopefully, to an MIR website. I understand part of the MIR property is now a public park. Can you think
Meadowdale Reunion and Nostalgia Tour? That would get you flood of stuff for a website! Be aware that some
of the drawings purporting to show the course layout are not even close to accurate. To see what MIR was really
like, check out the aerial photos on the TerraServer website. The photo is from 1994, but the outline of the track is
still clear. Search on Carpentersville IL and look carefully just west of the river. I've got the exact URL at work. I
raced a TR3 at MIR in October 1965 and an Alfa at your July 1967 race. At the '67 race the top of the Monza
Wall was pyloned off because it was so rough. Shortly thereafter it was bulldozed, replaced by a feature-less
sweeping turn. Sad. The Monza Wall was THE significant feature of Meadowdale. But not the scariest...
Subject: Re: Meadowdale raceway
From: "BRIAN DOMONT" <BYRON74@email.msn.com>
For those interested in the meadowdale satellite view here is the link. Iwas also one of the entrants of the KATcca
this summer. I was there Twice this summer with fellow competitors I cant tell ya how exciting it was. I mean there
was two bridges still in tack (rusted of course) and on our second trip we even found the start\finish line paint still
intact ofter All these years!!. There was most of the main straight in tact and only a Little break at the top of a hill
that was gone. I agree with Ross that the Monza Wall (even though I didnt see it) couldnt of been as scary as
going down The main straight (that is sooo loong you cant see from one end to the other ) and the second half is
downhill!!! Holly Terminal Velocity!!! Some of Us were planning to go back again early next summer and were
hoping to get Any of you who have raced there to come tell us about what it was like Racing there. Hoping to get
more stories like Ross's.
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?
Subject: Meadowdale raceway
From: "Ross Fosbender" <rossf@interaccess.com>
Brian- What is KATcca? RossFos
Subject: Re: Meadowdale raceway
From: "BRIAN DOMONT" <BYRON74@email.msn.com>
Ross man,
KAT = Karim Alex Talbot cca = car club of america . A bunch of us Guys had been talking about finding and
walking Meadowdale, but he was the One person that actually got a bunch of organized to meet there. So allen
Named him KATcca. Not actually an organization just a nick name.
Brian Domont
Subject: Re: Meadowdale raceway?
From: "Ross Fosbender" <rossf@interaccess.com>
Speaking of movies, does the Lakeshore SCC film library have any Meadowdale footage? That would be valuable
in our research for the MIR book, and perhaps for Salt Creek's possible MIR webpage. Can someone from
Lakeshore contact me? Thanks. RossFos
Subject: Re: Meadowdale raceway?
BARPERF@aol.com wrote:
I remember growing up with a crashed Austin Healey in our back yard. My dad went off somewhere while racing
at Meadowdale. My parents have videos (old 8mm) of me when I was a kid(still am) and my dad racing his
Healey (he still has) at Meadowdale Raceway. I thought I'd add some people to your Contact sheet about
Meadowdale Raceway, that I've personally talked to. George Olsen, Frank Hartl (raced his Mercedes,
remembers the Monza wall), Don Nisson ( has an original poster from MIR), and Jerry Lagod (father of Max,
trans-am racer). I also remember seeing videos of the Ford Cobras at MIR at a trans-am or FIA race, I'll try to
find the guy with the videos and have him do a presentation at one of our club meetings. Ron Olsen V/H #41
Austin Healey it raced at MIR)
News Letter Editor Needed.
I have been elected president of the Illinois Technology Educators Association. I begin my new duties in March.
So hone those word processor skills and step up and take the wheel of this esteemed publication.
Rick
Salt Creek Sports Car Club
C/O James Camasto
728 Citation Drive
Naperville, Illinois 60540-7747
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